<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post365168471629749641..comments</id><updated>2008-09-19T21:20:09.455-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Archival Clothing: Archival Baggage I</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/feeds/365168471629749641/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html'/><author><name>Lesli Larson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600</uri><email>lesli.larson@gmail.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>14</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-1188164370303610540</id><published>2008-09-19T21:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-19T21:20:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Frost River is definitely stll in business..</title><content type='html'>Frost River is definitely stll in business..</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/1188164370303610540'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/1188164370303610540'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1221884400000#c1188164370303610540' title=''/><author><name>Lesli L</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04151944356347775317'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-4876696719126229955</id><published>2008-09-19T15:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-09-19T15:53:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>is frost river out of buisness?</title><content type='html'>is frost river out of buisness?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/4876696719126229955'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/4876696719126229955'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1221864780000#c4876696719126229955' title=''/><author><name>johnson</name><uri>http://ridelugged.com</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-6895384519388544218</id><published>2008-07-30T19:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-30T19:29:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>True.  I wore a plastic jersey tonight on my Wed n...</title><content type='html'>True.  I wore a plastic jersey tonight on my Wed night hill climb and I felt sooooooo silly.  I actually felt like a visual punch line--as if I were wearing a high school cheerleading outfit.  I'm sure the experience of riding a plastic bike with plastic luggage--though affording me a radical 5 mph gain in my average traveling speed--would generate even more silly self loathing.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I will say that I do feel more sluggish on the Pencil when riding my 650b x 32c tires--the narrowest, go fast option for my wheelset.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;All I'm asking for is a skinny, sporty 650b tire.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/6895384519388544218'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/6895384519388544218'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217471340000#c6895384519388544218' title=''/><author><name>Lesli L</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04151944356347775317'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-5441975323296083531</id><published>2008-07-30T16:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-30T16:59:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I'm so relieved your coming back into the fold.  C...</title><content type='html'>I'm so relieved your coming back into the fold.  Can you imagine yourself at the Brevet start with one of "those" bikes and "that" equipment.  I think not.  I must say haven't ridden a 1200K myself but I don't mind going a little slower on my Riv with Ostrich bag.  I know I put style on the road.  The loss in speed is a small price to pay for any extra weight.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/5441975323296083531'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/5441975323296083531'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217462340000#c5441975323296083531' title=''/><author><name>rustycool7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06670667526606157428</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-5692999379493474414</id><published>2008-07-30T10:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-30T10:01:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Definitely working on the mechanical animal side o...</title><content type='html'>Definitely working on the mechanical animal side of the weight equation.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/5692999379493474414'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/5692999379493474414'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217437260000#c5692999379493474414' title=''/><author><name>Lesli L</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04151944356347775317'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-4574024790969843794</id><published>2008-07-29T21:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-29T21:06:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank goodness you've returned to the fold.I've be...</title><content type='html'>Thank goodness you've returned to the fold.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I've been thinking about the shorter/smaller/slower riders.&lt;BR/&gt;You're probably right that the tests don't equally apply to s/s/s riders than they do to Jan, but there's the same problem as they apply to the other direction too since compared to "typical male cyclist", Jan is of average height, below average size (e.g., skinny), below average weight, and far above average strength. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;s/s/s riders have the least disadvantage when it comes to forces trying to stop you: they have a smaller area for drag (from both being shorter and usually narrower), lower average body weight than an average male cyclist (who wouldn't be able to drop the same amount of weight from the bike/cargo, only relevant when accelerating anyway (though one does tend to dwell on it when climbing)), and quadratically decreasing drag due to speed. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Reducing gear weight would have a proportionately larger effect because of the lower rider+bike weigh, but reducing bag size would have a proportionately less effect because of the lower speed. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The disadvantages are that riders with shorter legs have less mechanical advantage because of shorter levers.  Smaller riders are also likely to have less strength because they usually have smaller muscles, but this doesn't necessarily mean they have a lower strength to weight ratio than average.  Women, on average, have lower strength to weight ratios that men because of higher "floor" fat percentages and less testosterone to build muscle.  &lt;BR/&gt;(If I forgot to prefix any of those statements with average or typical, I'll include a few more here for good measure: average, typical, average, average, typical, typical).  I think that a heavy weight training regimen would do more than dropping bits off the bike, since it increases your strength to weight ratio with a higher ceiling than reducing bike weight/aerodynamics.  I've been doing this the past few months, and it's been much more effective than an equivalent amount of riding.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The psychological aspect of believing your bike is slowing you down is more difficult to contend with. I guess the only tactic is photocopy the tire tests from BQ showing narrow tires aren't necessarily faster and tape them next to your cue sheet for when kilometer 1100 rolls around :) &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This is a really long comment.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/4574024790969843794'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/4574024790969843794'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217390760000#c4574024790969843794' title=''/><author><name>p. squiddy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11167295487172421470</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-921934861847071933</id><published>2008-07-29T18:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-29T18:20:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>OK.  TDF is over and the Cevelo ads are disappeari...</title><content type='html'>OK.  TDF is over and the Cevelo ads are disappearing from view. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Already shopping for absurdly engulfing, oversized envelope style cruiser pack for myself.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.frostriver.com/canoe_packs/vintage_pack.html</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/921934861847071933'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/921934861847071933'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217380800000#c921934861847071933' title=''/><author><name>Lesli L</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04151944356347775317'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-2759094977195050538</id><published>2008-07-29T16:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-29T16:52:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>For the love of God....Please don't go over to the...</title><content type='html'>For the love of God....Please don't go over to the dark side....STYLE BEFORE SPEED.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/2759094977195050538'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/2759094977195050538'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217375520000#c2759094977195050538' title=''/><author><name>rustycool7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06670667526606157428</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-2058016953891766955</id><published>2008-07-29T14:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-29T14:15:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"I need Winter to hurry back "Be careful what you ...</title><content type='html'>"I need Winter to hurry back "&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Be careful what you wish for...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;=)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/2058016953891766955'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/2058016953891766955'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217366100000#c2058016953891766955' title=''/><author><name>Winter Bicycles</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04517790600240546440</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-5035592782908281398</id><published>2008-07-29T13:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-29T13:23:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Mr. Kufuramon--Meaning to say: I'm expecting thoro...</title><content type='html'>Mr. Kufuramon--&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Meaning to say: I'm expecting thorough documentation of gentlemanly outfits and classic city bikes during your stay in Paris.  Anything less than two full flickr sets will not be tolerated!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/5035592782908281398'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/5035592782908281398'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217362980000#c5035592782908281398' title=''/><author><name>Lesli L</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04151944356347775317'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-6652329307848584795</id><published>2008-07-26T18:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-26T18:05:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"was packed up like a pilgrim's donkey"...this phr...</title><content type='html'>"was packed up like a pilgrim's donkey"&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;...this phrase is testament to your status as a woman of taste and learning.  Seriously, I am ripping it off and using it a lot, starting now.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/6652329307848584795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/6652329307848584795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217120700000#c6652329307848584795' title=''/><author><name>kungfuramone</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03758527557709570768</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-2222251167790736508</id><published>2008-07-26T10:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-26T10:57:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Moreover--I'm starting to question some of the VBQ...</title><content type='html'>Moreover--I'm starting to question some of the VBQ tests as they apply to shorter/smaller/slower riders.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/2222251167790736508'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/2222251167790736508'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217095020000#c2222251167790736508' title=''/><author><name>Lesli L</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04151944356347775317'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-7623382645207829438</id><published>2008-07-26T10:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-26T10:55:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I hear what you're saying for shorter distances bu...</title><content type='html'>I hear what you're saying for shorter distances but when these rides start stretching out over days the mind goes bonkers and you start obsessing over how much more sleep you might enjoy if your tires were a wee bit narrower or there were not so many curly q's in the shoreline of your lugs.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/7623382645207829438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/7623382645207829438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217094900000#c7623382645207829438' title=''/><author><name>Lesli L</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04151944356347775317'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-8665494013518440276</id><published>2008-07-26T10:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-26T10:36:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Be careful, you're verging on heresy :)Jan Heine h...</title><content type='html'>Be careful, you're verging on heresy :)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Jan Heine has shown that the most significant factor is not weight, but wind resistance (BQ v6n1).  He found that a handlebar bag only increased drag by 2.5% at 22mph, and resistance increases as a square of velocity, so at randonneur pace, it's maybe 1% difference.  If you make the assumption that drag is the only thing slowing you down (discounting friction), then we say you're 1% slower because of the bag.  You can more than make this lost time up if the handlebar bag prevents you from needing to make a single one-minute stop per hour riding.  So, I think you're worrying too much about this and not riding how you want to ride.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Part of the appeal of randonneuring to me is in the self-sufficiency and "historical re-enactment" aspects.  I don't think it would be the same if I had to abandon because on of my 20 carbon fiber spokes broke.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/8665494013518440276'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/365168471629749641/comments/default/8665494013518440276'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html?showComment=1217093760000#c8665494013518440276' title=''/><author><name>p. squiddy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11167295487172421470</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.archivalclothing.com/2008/07/archival-baggage-ii.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21561568.post-365168471629749641' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21561568/posts/default/365168471629749641' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>